that america is on an unsustainable course. we cannot financially -- this is not possible and we're really robbing from future generations. have you expressed this specifically to the president? have you had discussions with him about how we need to get our budget in balance considering he's accumulated this debt and these deficits? >> yes, i had an opportunity to meet with him a couple weeks ago on this subject. and i indicated to him exactly what i've told our viewers here tonight. that for me, i want to know what this is going to do to help resolve our fiscal imbalances. get in deficit down and keep us on -- put us back on a sustainable path. sean: and what does he say? >> he agreed with that, sean. sean: but he quadrupled the deficit in a year. >> well, to be fair to the president, there were some extraordinary circumstances. and he inherited a bad economy and a couple of wars and some other things. but the point i want to make is he was well aware that we have some tough decisions to make. he was alarmed at the first c.b.o